Lizzo speaks on dealing with depression and the inspiration behind her new music on SiriusXM’s “The Morning Mash Up”.
Lizzo recently appeared on SiriusXM’s “The Morning Mash Up” to promote her new single, “Still Bad“.
During the interview, Lizzo discussed dealing with depression and the inspiration behind her music video for “Still Bad”.
Lizzo Talks Battling Depression: “You Have to Be Easy on Yourself“
Stanley T: Anybody dealing with depression, tell me how you kind of get through it.
Lizzo: It really, it comes and it goes. It’s a journey. I feel like people think you can just cure it and it goes away, but like, there’s so many different triggers and causes and some of you don’t even see coming and you’re like, “Why did that make me so sad? Why am I crying right now?” and then you think, “Oh my gosh. There’s this memory that I’m deeply like intrinsically connected to that I didn’t realize this would pull outta me,” so I think like, it’s okay. It’s okay. You know what I mean? I think that’s the biggest thing. I think we like to shame ourselves for feeling bad too especially as black women. I’m like, “Get it together. Why can’t I just be in a good mood? Why can’t I just be happy? Why can’t I just be strong?” and it’s just like, you have to be easy on yourself and let yourself feel what you’re feeling and also, I said this at my show in LA last night? No, night before last, but reach out and I think it’s really hard to reach out when you’re in, when I’m in my deepest, darkest place, it is so hard for me to just be like, “I need help. I need someone to talk to.” You know, and luckily, I have my therapist and I told her, I was like, “I just need you every Sunday now. Don’t let me cancel,” because that little conversation helps me so much when I’m trying to get through the week, so I think reaching out and if she ever gets too quiet, just check in with her because sometimes I need somebody to be like, “Hey, you all right?” You know, just checking in on some real talk, not just, “Hey, what’s up?” “Are you good?”
Nicole Ryan: Yeah, and like you said, I think it’s important to give yourself grace and sometimes if I’m feeling like shit, I’ll literally be like, “I have no right to feel like this. I have a great job. I have a beautiful family.” it’s okay to feel like, we’re human beings and you have to let yourself know that sometimes.
Lizzo: And I think we also think depression is this like super intense thing and we don’t give ourselves the validation that we’re experiencing depression ’cause we’re like, “No, it couldn’t be.” I remember telling my therapist, I was like, “I know I’m not clinically depressed, but I’m this and this and this,” and she was like, “Baby, that’s clinical depression,” and I was like, “Oh, okay.” She’s like, “You’d be surprised how like certain symptoms and how easy it is to actually be,” not easy, but you know what I mean? We don’t realize how you could be clinically depressed, so I think that, too, is just accepting and being like, “Okay, we’re gonna move through this.”
Ryan Sampson: Well, I would imagine having music and be able to be creative is an outlet, is a way to deal with what you’re feeling.
Lizzo: First of all, great segue, because it’s so real. I use the studio as like therapy and I feel like I have to start paying. I need to get charged by Ricky Reed. The engineers. The producers. I’m like, because I really just sit in that room and I talk for like five hours before I can even write a song, but I think that’s why the music is so real. My music is just so in the veins ’cause it’s really what I’m going through and it’s after a long therapy session and I get to put it all out into my art. Everybody needs their outlets and I’m just so grateful that this is my outlet and I get to do this.
Lizzo Talks Getting Weird with “Still Bad” Music Video
Ryan Sampson: Lizzo is here and the thing that I want to know, this “Still Bad” video, did you start as a concept for that? Did you just go, “I want to burn a car. I’ve never had a chance to this.”
Lizzo: Oh my god. So funny. Somebody was like, “Is that a Tesla?,” so yeah. First of all, I have to shout out my creative director, Little Miss Molly. I have an amazing creative director and I was just like, “Take me somewhere I’ve never been before,” ’cause we sat and we talked for a long time and she was like, “You know, you’re weirder than people realize. You like fantasy and anime and you’re really deeply creative,” and she was like, “I want to kind of like put that in the forefront and put that in your music videos,” ’cause traditionally I’m very narrative and very like these like motifs that everybody gets like, “I’m a superhero,” or you know, “We’re dancing,” and she was like, “No, I want you to like go on a journey,” and so I was like, “Okay,” and it was like this two-part story and I think if you really want to know what the motivation of “Still Bad” is is it’s me versus Twitter. That is the exclusive. That’s the scoop.
Nicole Ryan: I love that you didn’t say X, that you said Twitter,
Lizzo: Baby, if Mama called it Twitter, Im’a call it Twitter. Okay?
Ryan Sampson: Do you have to try to not fight it, to like leave it alone and not respond?
Lizzo: Oh, I’m not even on that platform.
Ryan Sampson: Well, but still, it’s in the world. You were able to just completely ignore it even though your friends have it?
Stanley T: She X’ed it out. I don’t know if you noticed.
Lizzo: That’s what the X stand for. I’m on Blue Sky. I love Blue Sky. That’s where I get all of my ideas and my random thoughts off. It is really, really easy for me to ignore negativity and I think it’s just because unfortunately, I’ve dealt with so much negativity my whole life and then my career, and so you kind of just get kind of immune. I really don’t even know if you’re a real person. Are you a bot, and so now I just be like, “Bot. Bot response.”
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